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Sun, 15 Jun 2003

Agile Fusion: mid-course correction

We've decided to drop the veterinary exam project. It didn't seem likely to meet the learning goals for the group. But it led me to some tentative ideas:

  • Maybe I should pay more attention to "the natural starting size" of a project. I bet that one pair of people could have laid down infrastructure faster than seven people did, and it would probably have been a better one to build upon.

  • In this early phase, I believe that defining acceptance tests first helped clarify things. So did seeing the early version of the app. Seeing the early version was more valuable. To the extent that automating the acceptance test delayed deployment of the first version, automation was a bad thing.

    We would have been better off deferring the automation. We should have just used the acceptance test manually. I suppose we might have locked in on an implementation infrastructure that made automation hard, but I doubt it.

  • I'm also inclined to think that choosing to test against the GUI (by using COM to drive IE) didn't help. I'm disappointed by that, because my bias has long been to write acceptance tests against the "domain model", not the GUI. It's boring to have your biases confirmed.

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